De ce sunt românii homofobi?
Nu sunt. Pur şi simplu se oripilează când văd creaturi precum cea de mai jos. E ok, nu are nimeni treabă cu ce face fiecare acasă sub plapumă, dar când defilaţi în halul ăsta pe stradă la ce vă aşteptaţi? La acceptare? La oameni bucuroşi să vă vadă?
Simonne, cine te forteaza? Esti legata de stalp cu scobitori sub pleoape si-ti trec travestitii prin fata ochilor?
wow, plin de comentarii tolerante
suntem homofobi pt. ca asa am fost invatati, pt ca avem putine experiente de viata si pt ca nici macar nu incercam sa vedem cum e de partea cealalta… si, in plus, suntem ai naibii de ipocriti: nu ne plac gay-i sau travestitii, dar salivam după lesbiene…
Romanii nu sunt homofobi? Ha! Citeste comentariile de mai sus. Homofobia este urmare a gay parade-urilor? Nu zau! Paradele astea au o vechime de vreo cativa ani, (cred ca maximum 10, nu sunt sigur), pe cand homofobia romaneasca este stramoseasca, eterna si fascinanta. Ce va fute grija de ce fac sau cum arata altii? Sunt heterosexual 1000%, dar cand vad intoleranta nu pot decat sa ma jenez – nu de heterosexuali ma jenez, ci de specia umana. Sunteti mai prosti ca maimutele, voi cei intoleranti.
zoso,
sa inteleg ca daca vad un cocalar negricios, cu ghiuluri, in slapi, cu burta afara si scuipand pe jos pe strada, ar trebui sa fiu oripilat de heterosexuali?!?!
open your mind, people
succes
Deci eu sper ca niciunul din cei care generalizati de maniera asta absurda n-a ascultat vreodata Queen, George Michael, Boy George sau Elton John.
Cuuuum? Vi s-a intamplat sa auziti melodii de-ale lor? Si vai! Oroare! S-a intamplat sa va si placa?!!! Nu v-a fost teama ca deveniti si voi homosexuali? Nu stiati ca homosexualitatea se transmite si prin sunete?
Acestea fiind zise, propun ca cei trei inca in viata din cei pe care i-am numit sa fie arsi pe rug
Va bagati, vitejilor care generalizati? Voi, vitejii luptelor duse de altii?
blocnotes, zi zau cu limba scoasa ca toti nerozii care s-au spart in figuri pe aici au sanctionat comportamentul.
In caz ca nu ti-a picat fisa, comportamentul poate fi sanctionat doar de lege. Din moment ce legea le permite manifestatiile de genul asta, mucles si mers pe burta. Nimanui nu-i pasa ca crede nea Ion de la tara.
@blocnotes. Exact asa cum un tribunal sanctioneaza crima si nu criminalul? Si totusi criminalii fac puscarie.
Sunt convins ca publicul ala care sanctioneaza comportamentul si nu persoana sunt aia care sanctioneaza zbaterile epilepticului si vor sa-l exorcizeze si nu conditia celui care sufera de epilepsie.
Asta e din ciclul “iubeste pacatosul dar uraste pacatul, nu?”. Romanii sunt homofobi pentru ca stau prea mult in dreptul pulii de popa sub patrafir. Asta nu le place, dar suporta ca trebuie sa primeasca iertare. Si rabufnesc atunci cand cred ca unii vor sa le-o bage pe gat.
Cand uit cumva ca traiesc in Romania, citesc ceva comment-uri ca mai sus, si-mi revin. A, am ceva pt voi, de pe sfaturiortodoxe.ro: “Cel ce a curvit cu femeia sa peste fire ( împreunarea peste fire este atunci când bărbatul sau o femeie îsi fac demonica plăcere sarutându-se unde nu trebuie ), să nu se împărtăsească 15 ani; la fel si femeia se canoniseste dacă a fost cu voia ei; iar dacă a fost silită (adică fară voia ei), 6 ani să nu se împărtăsească.” Cele bune, compatriotilor, toate cele bune!
Apropo, sunt curios cati dintre voi vedeti in mod normal tineri de acelasi secs tinandu-se lasciv de manutza in metrou si-n alte locuri publice. Sau grabbing each other’s asses. Corect, mediul in care ai fost crescut conteaza. In alte orase din europa apuseana [care e eminamente diferita fata de .ro] chestii de gen se intampla constant. Nimanui nu-i pasa atat de mult, lumea s-a obisnuit, totul in regula. Diversitate, frate. N-ar fi boring daca am fi toti la fel? Si stati linistiti, homosexualii nu sunt d-aia care se furiseaza pe la spate si v-o infig pe nesimtite <– cred ca se ascunde undeva (in the back of your mind) o teama de genul asta, si probabil ca si d-asta “romanii sunt homofob” (desi si eu sunt roman, si iata-ma nehomofob si inca-n viata).
sau pentru ca:
Little known facts about fags (homosexuals) and dykes (lesbians):
* On April 25, 2001, the CDC reported that “We are seeing substantial increases in sexually transmitted diseases among men who have sex with men in multiple locations across this country.” (31, 32).
* Fags are responsible for the “first sexually transmitted outbreak of typhoid fever” in the history of the United States.This disease is caused by ingesting human feces (32).
* More than 10% of fags in major U.S. urban areas are infected with HIV.To this day, they still make up more than 50% of reported AIDS cases in the United States (30, 31).
* Fags fellate almost 100% of their sexual contacts and ingest semen from about half of those. Semen contains virtually every germ carried in the blood stream, so this is about equivalent to ingesting raw human blood (6).
* One study reports 70% of fags admitting to having sex only one time with over 50% of their partners (3).
* One study reports that the average fag has between 20 and 106 partners per year (6). The average heterosexual has 8 partners in a lifetime.
* Sperm readily penetrates the anal wall (which is only one cell thick) and gains direct access to the blood stream. This causes massive immunological damage to the body’s T- and B-cell defensive systems (14).
* 50% of male syphilis is carried by fags as a rectal infection and can enter through the urethra of another fag during anal sex (7).
* Around 67-80% of fags lick and/or insert their tongues into the anuses of their partners (called “rimming”, anilingus, fecal sex, etc.) and ingest biologically significant amounts of feces (7), which is the chief cause of hepatitis and parasitic infections among fags (8). This practice is called the “prime taste treat in sex” in the bestseller The Joy of Gay Sex.
* 33% of fags admit to fisting (inserting the hand, sometimes part of the arm, into the rectum of his partner) (7).
* Urinating on each other (”golden showers”) and torture has doubled among fags since the 1940s, and fisting has increased astronomically (7).
* 17% of fags eat and/or rub the feces of their partners on themselves (4).
* 12% of fags give/receive enemas as part of sexual pleasure (4).
* In one study, the average fag fellated somewhere between 20 and 106 men, swallowed 50 seminal discharges, had 72 penile penetrations of the anus, and ingested feces of 23 different men EVERY YEAR (6).
* Many fag sexual encounters occur while drunk, high on drugs, or in an orgy setting (7).
* Many fags don’t pay heed to warnings of their lifestyles: “Knowledge of health guidelines was quite high, but this knowledge had no relation to sexual behavior” (16).
* Activities of fags involve rimming (anilingus), golden showers, fisting, and using “toys” (21).
* Fags got homosexuality removed from the list of mental illnesses in the early 70s by storming the annual American Psychiatric Association (APA) conference on successive years. “Guerrilla theater tactics and more straight-forward shouting matches characterized their presence” (2). Since homosexuality has been removed from the APA list of mental illnesses, so has pedophilia (except when the adult feels “subjective distress”) (27).
* Fags account for 3-4% of all gonorrhea cases, 60% of all syphilis cases, and 17% of all hospital admissions (other than for STDs) in the United States (5). They make up only 1-2% of the population.
* Fags live unhealthy lifestyles, and have historically accounted for the bulk of syphilis, gonorrhea, Hepatitis B, the “gay bowel syndrome” (which attacks the intestinal tract), tuberculosis and cytomegalovirus (27).
* 73% of psychiatrists say fags are less happy than the average person, and of those psychiatrists, 70% say that the unhappiness is NOT due to social stigmatization (13).
* 25-33% of fags and dykes are alcoholics (11).
* Of fags questioned in one study, 43% admitted to 500 or more partners in a lifetime, 28% admitted to 1000 or more in a lifetime, and of these people, 79% said that half of those partners were total strangers, and 70% of those sexual contacts were one night stands (or, as one fag admits in the film “The Castro,” one minute stands) (3). Also, it is a favorite past-time of many fags to go to “cruisy areas” and have anonymous sex. See http://www.cruisingforsex.com (NOTE:this site may contain pornographic images – please don’t go to it if you are under age or don’t want to see this type of material.This site is referenced only for illustrative purposes.)
* 78% of fags are affected by STDs (20).
* Judge John Martaugh, chief magistrate of the New York City Criminal Court has said, “Homosexuals account for half the murders in large cities” (10).
* Captain William Riddle of the Los Angeles Police says, “30,000 sexually abused children in Los Angeles were victims of homosexuals” (10).
* 50% of suicides can be attributed to fags (10).
* Dr. Daniel Capron, a practicing psychiatrist, says, “Homosexuality by definition is not healthy and wholesome. The homosexual person, at best, will be unhappier and more unfulfilled than the sexually normal person” (10). For other psychiatrists who believe that homosexuality is wrong, please see National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality.
* It takes approximately $300,000 to take care of each AIDS victim, so thanks to the promiscuous lifestyle of fags, medical insurance rates have been skyrocketing for all of us(10).
* One study reports that 90% of fags have engaged in anal sex, and 66% engage in anal sex regularly (6).
* Fags were responsible for spreading AIDS in the United States, and then raised up violent groups like Act Up and Ground Zero to complain about it. Even today, fags account for well over 50% of the AIDS cases in the United States, which is quite a large number considering that they account for only 1-2% of the population.
* Fags account for a disproportionate number of hepatitis cases: 70-80% in San Francisco, 29% in Denver, 66% in New York City, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal, and 26% in Melbourne (8).
* 10% of fags admit to eating feces and/or drinking contaminated enema water (8).
* 29% of fags engage in urine sex (”golden showers”) (8).
* 37% of fags engage in sadomasochism, which accounts for many accidental deaths. In San Francisco, classes were held to teach fags how to not kill their partners during sadomasochism (8).
* In large cities, hospitals are often called on to remove objects from the rectums of fags. Sometimes, the fags do so much damage that they have to wear colostomy bags for the rest of their lives (8).
* 41% of fags say they have had sex with strangers in public restrooms, 60% say they have had sex with strangers in bathhouses, and 64% of these encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs (8).
* Depending on the city, 39-59% of fags are infected with intestinal parasites like worms, flukes and amoebae, which is common in filthy third world countries (8).
* The median age of death of fags is 42 (only 9% live past age 65). This drops to 39 if the cause of death is AIDS. The median age of death of a married heterosexual man is 75 (8).
* The median age of death of dykes is 45 (only 24% live past age 65). The median age of death of a married heterosexual woman is 79 (8).
* Fags are 100 times more likely to be murdered (usually by another fag) than the average person, 25 times more likely to commit suicide, and 19 times more likely to die in a traffic accident (8).
* 21% of dykes die of murder, suicide or traffic accident, which is at a rate of 534 times higher than the number of white heterosexual females aged 25-44 who die of these things(8).
* 50% of the calls to a hotline to report “queer bashing” involved domestic violence (i.e., fags beating up other fags) (18).
* About 50% of the women on death row are dykes (12).
Fags prey on children.
* Corporations financially support ‘Gay’ Big Brothers-Big Sisters – 7-26-2002
* “Homosexuals in UK propose teaching about anal sex to 4-year-olds”
* 33% of fags ADMIT to minor/adult sex (7).
* There is a notable fag group, consisting of thousands of members, known as the North American Man and Boy Love Association ( NAMBLA). (Note:this web site is sometimes down).This is a child molesting fag group whose cry is “SEX BEFORE 8 BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE.” This group can be seen marching in most major fag parades across the United States.
* Fags commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming fags make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20 fags is a child molestor, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molestor (19).
* 73% of all fags have had sex with boys under 19 years of age (9).
* Many fags admit that they are pedophiles: “The love between men and boys is at the foundation of homosexuality” (22).
* Because fags can’t reproduce naturally, they resort to recruiting children. Fags can be heard chanting “TEN PERCENT IS NOT ENOUGH, RECRUIT, RECRUIT, RECRUIT” in their fag parades. A group called the “Lesbian Avengers” prides itself on trying to recruit young girls. They print “WE RECRUIT” on their literature. Some other fags aren’t as overt about this, but rather try to infiltrate society and get into positions where they will have access to the malleable minds of young children (e.g., the clergy, teachers, Boy Scout leaders, etc.) (8). See the DC Lesbian Avengers web page. Also, see AFA Action Alert.
* Kinder, gentler pedophiles?
The fag agenda.
* The fag agenda includes desensitizing the public: “The first order of business is desensitization of the American public concerning gays and gay rights…..To desensitize the public is to help it view homosexuality with indifference instead of with keen emotion. Ideally, we would have straights register differences in sexual preferences the way they register different tastes for ice cream or sports games….At least in the beginning, we are seeking public desensitization and nothing more. We do not need and cannot expect a full ‘appreciation’ or ‘understanding’ of homosexuality from the average American. You can forget about trying to persuade the masses that homosexuality is a good thing. But if only you can get them to think that it is just another thing…then your battle for legal and social rights is virtually won” (25).
* Part of the fag agenda is to get the public to affirm their filthy lifestyle, as one fag admitted in the October 1987 fag rally on Washington: “We are no longer seeking just a right to privacy and a protection from wrong. We also have a right — as heterosexual Americans already have — to see government and society affirm our lives” (27).
* Part of the fag agenda is to turn people from Christianity: “The teaching that only male-female sexual activity within the bounds and constraints of marriage is the only acceptable form should be reason enough for any homosexual to denounce the Christian religion” (1).
* Fags knowingly lied (and still lie) about the 10% figure (i.e., fags make up 10% of the population). As Tom Stoddard (formerly of the Lambda Legal Defense Fund) said, “We used that figure when most gay people were entirely hidden to try to create an impression of our numerousness” (17).
* The Gay Revolutionary .
The true number of fags.
* The Kinsey study of 1948, which fags often cite to say that 10% of the population is homosexual, actually says that only 4% of the population is EXCLUSIVELY homosexual. This study involved a disproportionate number of people who had been in jail for sex crimes (hardly a random sample of the population). Kinsey also did perverse studies involving young boys and pedophiles.
* Current research shows that the true percentage of fags is in the 1-2% range (15,23,26,28). Consider how small this number is when compared to most of the numbers above.
* CENSUS: HOMOSEXUAL “COUPLES” MAKE UP ONLY 0.5% OF ALL COUPLES – 10-22-2002
Fags aren’t discriminated against in employment, so why should they be a protected class?
* The average yearly income of a fag is $55,430.00 (most of which is disposable because no children to take care of!). The average of the general population is $32,144.00. The average of blacks is $12,166.00 (24).
* 59.6% of fags are college graduates. 18.0% of the general population are college graduates (24). Too bad they aren’t smart enough to listen to God. “Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools” (Romans 1:22).
* 49.0% of fags hold professional/managerial positions. 15.9% of the general population hold such positions (24). Where’s the job discrimination?
Sexual Orientation
* A phrase that has come up recently in this earth is “sexual orientation.” This is a phrase made up by fags to try to make themselves look less filthy than they really are. The purpose of the phrase is to take the spotlight from what these perverts do, and put it on the notion that they are just poor, mistreated people, who simply are attracted to members of the same sex – as if they aren’t engaging in activity forbidden by God Almighty. “Sexual orientation,” as used today, has nothing to do with sexual activity (yeah, right), but only refers to who or what a particular person is attracted to. If you think that people of other “sexual orientations” are just fine, let’s see what other “sexual orientations” you would necessarily have to accept as wholesome and pure. If you’re not going to discriminate based on “sexual orientation”, then you must not discriminate against any of the following. If you discriminate against any of these, you’re a hypocrite. These “sexual orientations” are generally known as “paraphilias”, and are mental disorders – just like homosexuality used to be (29).
* Exhibitionism – involves people who are sexually aroused by the idea of exposing their genitals to a stranger.
* Fetishism – involves people who are sexually aroused by nonliving objects.
* Frotteurism – involves people who are sexually aroused by the idea of touching and rubbing against a nonconsenting person.
* Pedophilia – involves people who are sexually attracted to prepubescent children (usually 13 years or younger).
* Sexual Masochism – involves people who are sexually aroused by being “humiliated, beaten, bound, or otherwise made to suffer.”
* Sexual Sadism – involves people who are sexually aroused by causing the psychological or physical suffering of a victim (e.g., “restraint, blindfolding, paddling, spanking, whipping, pinching, beating, burning, electrical shocks, rape, cutting, stabbing, strangulation, torture, mutilation, or killing”).
* Transvestic Fetishism – involves people who are sexually aroused by cross-dressing.
* Voyeurism – involves people who are sexually aroused by watching unsuspecting strangers have sex.
* Telephone Scatologia – involves people who are sexually aroused by making obscene phone calls.
* Necrophilia – involves people who are sexually attracted to corpses.
* Partialism – involves people who are sexually attracted to exclusively one part of the body.
* Zoophilia – involves people who are sexually attracted to animals.
* Coprophilia – involves people who are sexually aroused by feces.
* Klismaphilia – involves people who are sexually aroused by enemas.
* Urophilia – involves people who are sexually aroused by urine.
REFERENCES
(1) Advocate, 1985.
(2) Bayer, R. Homosexuality and American Psychiatry.
(3) Bell, A. and Weinberg, M. Homosexualities: a Study of Diversity Among Men and Women. New York: Simon & Schuster, 1978.
(4) Cameron et. al. ISIS National Random Sexuality Survey. Nebraska Med. Journal, 1985, 70, pp. 292-299.
(5) “Changes in Sexual Behavior and Incidence of Gonorrhea.” Lancet, April 25, 1987.
(6) Corey, L. and Holmes, K. “Sexual Transmission of Hepatitis A in Homosexual Men.” New England J. Med., 1980, pp. 435-38.
(7) Family Research Institute, Lincoln, NE.
(8) Fields, Dr. E. “Is Homosexual Activity Normal?” Marietta, GA.
(9) Jay and Young. The Gay Report. Summit Books, 1979, p. 275.
(10) Kaifetz, J. “Homosexual Rights Are Concern for Some,” Post-Tribune, 18 December 1992.
(11) Kus, R. “Alcoholics Anonymous and Gay America.” Medical Journal of Homosexuality, 1987, 14(2), p. 254.
(12) Lesbian News, January 1994.
(13) Lief, H. Sexual Survey Number 4: Current Thinking on Homosexuality, Medical Aspects of Human Sexuality, 1977, pp. 110-11.
(14) Manlight, G. et. al. “Chronic Immune Stimulation By Sperm Alloantigens.” J. American Med. Assn., 1984, 251(2), pp. 237-438.
(15) Morton-Hunt Study for Playboy
(16) MsKusick, L. et. al. “AIDS and Sexual Behavior Reported By Gay Men in San Francisco.” Am. J. Pub. Health, 1985, 75, pp. 493-96.
(17) Newsweek, February 1993.
(18) Newsweek, 4 October 1993.
(19) Psychological Reports, 1986, 58, pp. 327-37.
(20) Rueda, E. “The Homosexual Network.” Old Greenwich, Conn., The Devin Adair Company, 1982, p. 53.
(21) San Francisco AIDS Foundation, “Can We Talk.”
(22) San Francisco Sentinel, 27 March 1992.
(23) Science Magazine, 18 July 1993, p. 322.
(24) Statistical Abstract of the U.S., 1990.
(25) “The Overhauling of Straight America.” Guide Magazine. November, 1987.
(26) United States Census Bureau
(27) United States Congressional Record, June 29, 1989.
(28) University of Chicago’s Nation Research Corp.
(29) Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders Fourth Edition, American Psychiatric Association, 1994.
(30) Reuters, Feb. 5, 2001
(31) Center for Disease Control
(32) Associated Press, April 25, 2001
Propun marsul oamenilor “straight”.
Vom ajunge ca in State, unde negrii au inceput sa aiba mai multe drepturi decat albii…
m’au fascinat întotdeauna argumentele de tipul:
“gay parade va agresa psihic copii noștri care vor ajunge homosexuali din cauza asta!”
“legalizarea prostituției va face ca fetele noastre să devină curve!”
se mai predă cumva logica în școli? scoateți’o dracului afară din programă!
@Cristi: da buey dobitocule, asa e, in state negrii, homosexualii, catolicii, evreii, si alte scarnavii, merg liberi pe strada… ce cosmar pentru o maimuta verde…
Hai sa nu venim nici cu argumente de pe rahatu… ehm sfaturi ortodoxe ca ni se insulta inteligenta.
Eu tot n-am inteles care e problema. Defileaza pe strazi, lasa-i sa o faca. De ce te doare pe tine in fund?
)
D-aia nu mai pot eu că nenea ăla s-a împopoţonat în halul ăla, defilînd şi el pe stradă o dată pe an. Pfff!
Iar ne plouă-n beci.
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/475645/paunescu_is_sleeping_in_the_romanian_parlament/
Puritanilor, asta ar trebui sa va oripileze, nu oamenii vopsiti pe faţă!
bogdan, spuneam ca o asemenea desfasurare de “oameni” nu le face bine, mai ales ca ei vor acceptare. tinerii sunt mai intelegatori, dar gandeste=-te la babele de 50 de ani cu drept de vot.
daca lor le place si se simt bine asa cum sunt asta e. eu nu am nimic cu ei doar ca nu as vrea sa-i vad pe strada cum se stin de mana si sau mai rau cum se saruta. in fine fiecare e liber sa faca cea vrea cu viata lor…
cosmin, au aparut si pe la noi. inclusiv in bucuresti. faptul ca nu i-ai vazut inseamna ca nu te pasioneaza orientarea sexuala a oamenilor.
@zoso: Babele cu drept de vot sunt o amenintare pentru orice speranta de avansare a societatii romanesti, nu doar pentru cei din parada. Deci toti ar trebui sa ne facem griji pentru asta.
Iar cat despre manifestare, fiecare minoritate are dreptul sa-si exercite apartenenta si cele mai multe o fac.
http://de3xclau.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/zoso_106.jpg
din punctul nostru de vedere nu prea exista nicio diferenta intre poza postata de tine si cea din linkul de mai sus.
fiecare este o creatura in felul lui.
Asa cum si fata ta provoaca uneori voma multor compatrioti, asa si travestitii sunt o tinta sigura, in special oamenilor ca tine, plini de prejudecati si afinitati de noua dreapta.
Asa cum iti acceptam si noi banalitatea, accepta si tu diversitatea.
Dupa ce ca e iadul pe pamant, ca nu mai exista dragoste intre oameni, ca femeile au lut-o razna intr-un feminism prost aplicat, ca instutia familiei ajunge sa fie subiect de gluma, ni se baga pe gat si acceptarea poponarilor. E inpotriva omenirii! Sa fie intre ei in tarc daca s-ar putea dar nu sa incite prin festivaluri.
crissy, diferenta e ca eu nu ma rad in cap si nu imi pun pene in cur. si nici nu particip la concursuri de frumusete. e o diferenta subtila, pe care numai cei initiati o vad.
si in plus, eu nu lupt pentru acceptare pentru ca, din nou, nu sunt discriminat pentru ca nu ma inscriu la concursuri unde faţa conteaza. tu insa te inscrii la concursuri unde normalitatea este 1, iar tu incerci sa fii 1+rochie mulata+barba+machiaj strident+chiloti tanga+urlat in gura mare.
Vorba lui Cristi: pe cand o parada hetero?
@ak2000 Andrei: Tu esti ala care-si punea poze gol pe Softpedia? Esti suparat ca n-a muscat nici una momeala? Hai sa nu defulam aici….
@zoso: esti intolerant. Picatura asta, impreuna cu picatura rosia montana, numa’ bine au umplut paharu’ mirarii: ce naiba caut eu aici?
lumea nu are nevoie de idioti care se arunca in jos cu capul inainte. drum bun.
Romanii sunt intoleranti din toate punctele de vedere. Absolut tot ce e diferit de cum suntem noi obisnuiti e rau. Homosexualii sunt doar un exemplu.
Daca romanii vad un negru ce zic? “Uite cioara”
Daca vad tigani trec pe partea cealalta a strazii.
FFS si daca vezi pe cineva imbracat altfel decat in mod normal e o problema chiar daca nu e homosexual, tigan sau orice altceva.
La noi regula de baza e sa fii “in randul lumii”. Diversitatea este totdeauna taxata la noi.
Din punctul meu de vedere ce fac italienii cu romanii e minunat. Vedem si noi pe pielea noastra ce e rasismul. Dar aparent, nu invatam nimic din asta.
Fiecare cu orientarea lui, nu?
Fiecare are de ales si face ce vrea, nu?
OK, eu abia astept gay-parada. Aleg sa fiu homofob. Aleg sa ies pe strada si sa va sparg botul la cati mai multi.
@PigBrother: LOL.
@zoso: Din pacate, logica bunului simt nu functioneaza intotdeauna. Trebuie sa scoti oamenii din zona lor confort iar pentru asta trebuie sa faci gesturi iesite din comun. Asa au facut negrii in SUA, asa au facut femeile din toata lumea. Iar asta faci si tu, cand injuri pe unul, pe altul, pentru spam sau alte porcarii.
Stii doar ca we are the best !
@Andrei: Si-ai venit tu tocma` din varfu` dealului pana la Telecentru` de la Biblioteca locala ca sa ne spui asta?
@brutalistu: TL;DR
Serios, m-ai pierdut de la “fags”/”dykes” – e clar ca textul ala nu poate sa fie decat obiectiv.
Andrei, din sufletul meu curat de pionier, te rog fa asta. Probabil ca nefericitul ala o sa-si panseze ranile 2 saptamani. Dar va fi recompensata de imaginea unui idiot ca tine la parnaie. Go, tiger…
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Eu nu am nimic cu nimeni atata vreme cat totul este personal si in viata lui doar! Incep sa ma enervez atunci cand ei incearca sa ne convinga pe noi ca e OK. Tata, de ce trebuie sa faci parada? Adica… ei militeaza pentru “Drepturi egale”. Atunci fi naiba egal cu noi! Ati vazut voi ca facem parada “straight”? De ce trebuie sa fie atat de exhibitionisti sa arate la toti ce preferinte sexuale si ce fete de dobitoci au? Ok, ii accept, e alegerea fiecaruia in ce isi baga chestia, da plz!!! Nu incerca sa ma convingi pe mine ca e cool! Eu am parerea mea, personala, si vreau sa o mentin. Nu vreau reclame la ce misto e sa fi gay. Pff
@Sakura: De animale n-ai auzit?
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Atat timp cat se respecta legile in vigoare, dreptul lor de a manifesta este garantat de Constitutie, mai Cip mai… Suporta-i sau emigreaza in Arabia Saudita.
Romanii nu sunt de acord cu legalizarea, dar ei tot vor sa ne impuna acest lucru, ei unde ajungem?Ajungem sa ne dicteze minortatea impunerea unor legi care ei pretind ca sunt normale?Atat de normale incat vor “ajuta” demografia sa scada si mai rapid in loc sa creasca
Cand sustinatorii unui punct de vedere nu prea mai au solutii sa sustina acel punct, o dau in propozitii care contin cuvintele “lege” si “legal”. /care about the law
Pe de alta parte drepturile nu ti le impui, le castigi. Iesind in strada si organizand o parada, n-o sa faca altceva decat sa atate lumea impotriva ta. Indiferent daca esti gay/lesbi/trans/bi etc. Lumea generalizeaza si asta conteaza in final.
Mai bine te multumesti cu putin [aka faci ce vrei acasa dar pe strada te comporti NORMAL(hetero)], decat sa fii hulit iar seara baietii sa te astepte in scara blocului pentru o scurta discutie.
Cand un gigel incearca sa se faca de cacat online, invoca invaliditatea argumentului legalitatii. Mane, esti de la tara, nu s-a auzit de drepturi garantate prin lege pe acolo? Sau ce zice seful de post este “lege”?
P.S. Bati campii gratios, deocamdata tabara masculilor feroce o suge la capitolul “argumentatie”.
@PigBrother: Faci o eroare logica.:) Homofobii nu gandesc, ei nu ofera argumente, ei doar urasc. Atat. Sa le spui unui Andrei, Dragos Stefan and Co de dezbatere, de argumente etc e ca si cum le-ai spune unor idioti de aia de se omoara pe stadioane despre frumusetea sportului ca sport, nu ca violenta. Oamenii astia nu gandesc, ei nu analizeaza homosexualitatea (sau celelalte 99.99% din lucrurile care ii inconjoara), ei AU raspunsul. Incearca sa-i spui cainelui tau sa nu manance ca boul tot ce gaseste ca o sa vomite.
Cei mai deliciosi cretini sunt aia care baga placa religioasa la inaintare. Ei uita ca, de exemplu, religia interzice si sexul daca nu e facut cu unicul scop de a procrea. Si, atat timp cat nu respecti o regula inseamna ca fie setul de reguli nu e aplicabil, fie esti la fel de pacatos ca si gay-ii. Punem peste desertul asta si un toping de “nu judeca pe altii” si obtinem o prajiturica mustind de ipocrizie si prostie. Dar ei nu gandesc asa. Ei STIU.
N-are rost sa le argumentezi ceva. Oamenii astia nu sunt buni decat ca sa le faca afisari lui zoso sau lui arhi si sa fie luati la misto. Atat.
Chiar am citit toate comentariile (multe rau). Singurul care m-a captat pozitiv a fost cel al lui `brutalistu`. Inteleg ca restul oamenilor open-minded nu au rabdare sa citeasca date concrete care le contrazic ideile libertine de cacat (scuza-mi expresia, dar este atat de aproape de subiectul asta) si se arunca toti in afirmatii care mai de care mai pro-gay. Da..fix asta ne strica pe ni. homofobia. Cum sa nu. Cand vezi clar ca sunt abuzati copii de homosexuali (eventual sa aiba si dreptul sa adopte). Desigur. E pasul spre o lume libera si fericita. EU (tanara, straight, cu educatie superioara in curs) nu accept sa pic in capcana discriminarii – pozitive si a libertinismului din acest punct de vedere. Homosexualii sunt anormali, nu eu pt ca nu-i accept. Si cititi articolul ala de care pomeneam la inceput, ca doar se afla printre comentariile astea. Sau sunteti in faza de negare? Pace!
Radu, cata prostie zace in oameni e de neimaginat. Citesc acum ce ai scris tu si mi se confirma treaba asta. Sunt oferite argumente cu zecile anti-gay (numai ca sunt in engleza, faci si tu un efort?). De ce sa mi se explice ceva anormal/stupid/ne-natural/you name it ? De ce sa nu observam ca diversitatea si a iesi in evidenta nu inseamna sa te futi in cur? Si ca sa anticipez, nu bag placa aceea cu biserica, papusa. Ca regulile tampite sunt de pe vremea inchizitiei, nu se aplica dogmei de baza a crestinatatii. Hai sa dam si in biserica, eventual cu fecale de la tovarasii tai gay, nu? Libertin mic ce esti. Keep on doing the good job.
@Alexa: Corporatista mica, spune drept, visul tau e sa lucrezi in PR si comunicare, nu?
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TU, tanara, straight, cu studii superioare in curs, uiti ca acum cateva sute de ani nu aveai voie sa traversezi prin fata barbatului? Ca ai mii de ani de discriminare in spate? Ca erai privita ca o fabrica de facut copii si mancare? Ca sotul putea sa te bata zilnic iar societatea sa zica “ei, mama, asa e, barbatul poate sa-si mai bata femeia”? Ca nu aveai drept de opinie (aka de vot dar nu numai) ? Ca la fel de anormal i se parea societatii de atunci sa nu fii “femeie de casa” cum i se par acum relatiile gay? Ca daca societatea era la fel de obtuza si acum ca si cum cateva sute de anii, opiniile tale valorau doi lei si poate-ti luai si cateva scatoalce ca ai indraznit sa gandesti?
Un barbat alb, straight, care discrimineaza e idiot. In schimb, unul negru straight, femeile, tiganii etc care discrimineaza nu sunt numai idioti ci si ipocriti.
Mi se pare o lipsa de dezvoltare democratica in a acuza manifestarile gay.
Traim inca sub imperiul unei gandiri inguste(ortodoxe, comuniste etc).
Traiesc in afara Romaniei de zeci de ani. Gay-ii nu deranjeaza si sunt acceptati. Cat despre raspandirea unor boli sa ne uitam cat de multi copii au fost infectati in spitalele romanesti. Eu cred ca o parada nu poate face cine stie ce rau.
Sunt alte parade mai daunatoare -antieducationale, antidemocratice si antisociale.
Este un joc de a schimba lumina asupra unor defecte majore in societate si a ne lega de minoritati.
Atacaul la adresa negrilor de catre un antevorbitor mai sus demonstreaza cat de rea poate fi natura umana.
Negrii au fost sclavi si tratati ca sclavi in plina America pana in anii ’60.
Nu stiu cum ati reactiona daca ati fi in pielea celui flagelat si tinut in lanturi.
Traiesc in SUA si in Sud si gasesc ca trebuie lucrat pentru reconciliere.
Putin civism si mai multa intelegere pentru minoritati nu credeti ca ar fi binevenite ?
Tarile Scandinave se numara printre cele mai fericite, cu copiii cei mai fericit si cu un grad inalt de civilizatie. Nu cred ca o tema de genul acesta – HOMOFOBIE ar constitui o tema de abordat.
Dar asa suntem noi, romanii, cumva inapoia lumii, tocmai din cauza mentalitatii si a provincialismului.
Mai avem nevoie de urbanizare.
Minunati comentatori Zoso.
Multumita oamenilor ca voi e nevoie de 3 randuri de politia la gay parade. Randurile alea de politie ar trebui sa sperie populatia mai rau decat toti travestitii si gayii la un loc.
@Ingrid:
Acu vreo 15 ani ascultam George Michael. Da’ de cand am auzit că o ia cu holtzu’n'găoz mi se intoarce stomacu pe dos cand il aud. Aşa am păţit si cu Prison Break… cand am auzit ca actoru ala e p0p0 nu m’a mai interesat. Am auzit că a murit.
nu sunt homofob, dar cred, totusi, ca “ei” sunt niste accidente. niste accidente inofensive. la urma urmei, de ce ne este frica? ca vom deveni minoritari? putina logica ar spulbera aceasta ingrijorare; CUM sa devina majoritari?
la urma urmei, dezechilibrul dintre “normalitate” si “anormalitate” ramane o constanta de a lungul istoriei… doar ca odata cu evolutia ia forme mai pacifiste, ar trebui sa apreciem asta, trebuie sa ne aducem aminte de alte mizerii de acum zeci sau sute de ani si e suficient.
iar, zoso, din propriul dezgust nu ar trebui sa dezvoltam principii; dezgustul e caracteristic speciei umane dar nu e definitoriu. definitoriu e altceva, stim ce, nu?
Alexa, blonda mamii, ce este cu ineptia “cand vezi clar ca sunt abuzati copii de homosexuali”. Dar copii abuzati de heterosexuali cum sunt? Sunt mai fericiti ca au fost abuzati straight? Care bula galului este diferenta, de ai dat-o pe post de argument?
Cat despre lista brutalistului, permite-mi sa ignor cu aroganta divina statisticile pseudostiintifice in care apare cuvinte de genul “filthy lifestyle”